Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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Hi GM's

There is an issue with use of HK skill- Breath of Redyan in Pvps.
The double defense is not working as intended.

For example: If I keep both characters involved in pvp with same stats, same pant and boot options and same ess.
and let's say my hp bar is 1k and opponents damage on me is 500. I loose hp of 300 over bar.
The above is without the skill.

With BOR put on:
Damage from opponent is still 500 and I loose Hp of 100 over bar.

This means doubling the defense(no matter how much), its only 200 less over HP bar.

Please review this at your end and let us know.
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If you can provide a video recording of same stat characters with damage being given on you then it will help.
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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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BOR raises defense points only. Take ele damage and ele defense into consideration. no one knows about perfect damage calculations. Maybe GM has idea about it.But its best that he keeps it a secret
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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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Hi GMs

Please advise and let me know if you need further clarity.
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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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GandalfTheGrey wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 3:27 am BOR raises defense points only. Take ele damage and ele defense into consideration. no one knows about perfect damage calculations. Maybe GM has idea about it.But its best that he keeps it a secret
Even if u consider defense becoming x2 we should be able to see a significant change in damage received and opponent should see a significant decrease in damage given but this doesn't happen at all.
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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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Is this an issue in the arena or the maps?
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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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I have found this issue while pvping on maps.
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[GM]Blade wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 7:49 am Is this an issue in the arena or the maps?
For me, I see the BOR is doing fine as intended over maps against BOSSES ONLY, but the moment I jump into pvp (both in map and arena), it loses its effect.

Doubling the defense (no matter how much), the opponent sees the same damage on me and simultaneously I lose HP in the same rate as I am without BOR. Tested this with numerous number of players of different classes.

The calculations which Mr. Sahil has shared at first is pretty accurate to mine. Please look into this.

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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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even in arena BOR is not working Blade, we tried several times,
same damage is noted with and without BOR in arena and Maps too..
we thought u may help HK classification
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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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Thanks for confirming.
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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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so the new patch update has mage and hk degraded. :-o

and nothing happened to archer or warrior?
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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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duhavenger wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 3:46 pm so the new patch update has mage and hk degraded. :-o

and nothing happened to archer or warrior?
Offtopic.
Please create a separate topic for this.

Gm's any update?
Please advise.
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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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sahil wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 5:14 pm Offtopic.
Please create a separate topic for this.

Gm's any update?
Please advise.
bruh....
is bor not working after patch update not related?
similar to mage loosing a lot of base dmg?
it happened after patch update right.
are you sure that it is not related to patch update? :-?
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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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Yes.
This is quite likely before from that.
Interestingly (and very strangely) no one who plays HK reported this.

For mage, As GM Scar pointed when cooldown was introduced mage non ele damage was increased and hence when cool down was removed it was undone.
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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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Warrior g9.5 spear ignore all enemy attribute defenses.
It means use stone skin or bor against warrior 9.5 spear those skills are waste.
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Re: Issue with BOR skill in PVP

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Not sure why you posted the above.
My observation is against G10 weapon vs G10 weapon.

Also if my knowledge on the game serves right attribute defense means it ignores ele defense and not the main defense which becomes twice using Bor.
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