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ur post reminded me of those nyt crime shows on news channels XD
n btw ya it is true tht hks r gonna hv d biggest advantage, bt c dis, hks r d slowest leavellers, noobs @ lower rbs, so they proceed gradually, opposite hppns in case of mages,
if u guys play dota, understand it lyk dis
hks r late gamers n mages r early gamers, bod hv der advabmntages n disadvantages

yes, a hk cn stand tank, cn he kill? he hs sch low dmg, cn a hk hunt bettr den ne oder class? cn ne class hunt bettr den mages? if ur answer is yes, den sry to say u dunno hw to play a mage, mages r d best class fr hunting, followed by archer, den warrior n den hks
opposite order in pvps, hks r best followed by warriors, archers n den mages, so its completely balanced

tho i think ders only a thin line between archers n warriors

deadraizer wrote:ur post reminded me of those nyt crime shows on news channels XD
n btw ya it is true tht hks r gonna hv d biggest advantage, bt c dis, hks r d slowest leavellers, noobs @ lower rbs, so they proceed gradually, opposite hppns in case of mages,
if u guys play dota, understand it lyk dis
hks r late gamers n mages r early gamers, bod hv der advabmntages n disadvantages

yes, a hk cn stand tank, cn he kill? he hs sch low dmg, cn a hk hunt bettr den ne oder class? cn ne class hunt bettr den mages? if ur answer is yes, den sry to say u dunno hw to play a mage, mages r d best class fr hunting, followed by archer, den warrior n den hks
opposite order in pvps, hks r best followed by warriors, archers n den mages, so its completely balanced

tho i think ders only a thin line between archers n warriors

Ahem !!!

who told that HKs are the slow lvlers ?? !!

dude.... after BOR..... Hks can go to High lvl maps and LvL up Much Faster than other class chars(except Mages).....

Its true that Mages lvl up faster than any other class because of its Sedi and High damage skills...

DoooooD !!!!

Archers and Warriors are the slow lvlers...... coz they can go to high lvl maps like HKs and Mages.........

Though warriors have Freeze.... but still they cant go to any High lvl maps for lvlups, because of Rangers!!!!

Similary.... though Archers have Epi 3 Multikill skill, WideDarts, still he has very Low HP bar!!!!

there are good an bad things in each an every class.......

and we are discussing the Properties of new Patch RN here....... not the properties of classes of chars!!!!!!!

And DOOOD dont tell me HKs are the slowest lvlers....... BOR Doubles ur Defense and Demon-Hunter give Imbaa Damage.........

Moreover HK & Mages in a Party lvlup like Crazy !!!!!!!!

@ Deadraizer
I disagree... Archers are best in Hunting nowdays .... GP party Archer rocks not mage ... Hunting for wz in chlorence Archer rocks better than mage .... Mage has to refill after every single boss cuz of MP and as melee and skill is too slow .. Archer kills bosses faster ... Gp party Archer is best hunter as Archer has more Attack and WD is IMBA

rahuldx wrote: why mage shpuldnt getting all the advantage in lvling n seddin
Obli u hav finished yr lvl up n questing with mage but we r not finished yet
even u came ingame very less time
mage dont hav speed in direct attack or in spells, their skills requires lots of mp,
so what happened if they get some advantage in lvl up

Now...i actually didnt mean that a mage shuldnt get some advantage in lvlin n sedin..wat my point was that it was UNDUE advantage...ive mentioned the wrd UNDUE very precisely ... coz its a fact that a mage can easily lvl up even without a RN...it doesnt need infinite mp to lvl up fast....its a peculiar characteristic of a mage to lvl up at a rate which is lot better than ne other class... !

the 2nd thng is...im just rb 11 in the game..i still hav one more rb to go....so u cant actually say that ive completed my lvlin bro .. !!


Ahem..now we come to the bold part in ur post... u say that i havnt come ingame that much..but b4 stating that kindly inquirw frm ur allymates n ingame-mates that do they know sm1 by the name of oblivion?....how much did oblivion play the server in 1 day on an average?....they'll just gv u a simple answer...Oblivion is mad...he used to stay online 24x7 .. !

moreover atleast ive come online mroe than deadraizer atleast .. !

Pain wrote: dude ur rite........
an HK with Good Gp can own any1 even W/O RN....... but can he tank 6-7 people at a time and W/O doing TP??

come to think of a situation........

in War..... an HK comes and stands in front of 7 people tanking them all and doin nothing but HEAL......
when RN was removed from the server...... i remember HKs never came in war alone....... but now 50 mp regen per second will give imbaa advantage to HK's in war....... again they will come alone Tank 6-7 people alone and heal while they wont loose Mp & this will bug other class people........

my question is......... is it good that only char class can tank such large amount of people and stand there???? Dont u think this makes a char class INVINCIBLE ???? whats the use of war and PK in the server, if u cant PK or kill a certain class like other classes????

Its better then Remove PK or War kind of things from the server....... coz ultimately, it will be in favour of HKs.....

Obli...... if u remember how HKs in A3india used to play..... they used to come in war in between some 2-4 people tank them..... take a frag if they can...... and TP away....... for refill........

in this server i think HKs wont TP for refill...... as they wont loose Hp as well as Mp.........

such an undue advantage will BUG other classes.......

and u have agreed that 90% of arena matches will not conclude.........

DOOOD..... 90% probability of NO-RESULT is itself a kind of FRUSTRATING thing !!!!!!!!!!

imagine INDIA - PAKISTAN Cricket match with 90% probability of No-Result !!!!!!!!!

brisingr90 wrote:@ Eutuxia
11111
Exactly .....
Every other class has imba melee rate except mage ...Why?
Every other class has very less MP consumption on skills except mage ... Why?
Every other class has advantage in many areas than a mage...Why?
Sedi is very important for mage Game Play .. Without Sedi mage is broken... Without MP mage is broken as sedi requires 600MP and SB and Stigma 400MP ...Why?
Only 1 Advantage mage had of unlimited MP for better Game-Play is being taken away and given only to HKs Game-Play [Heal] ...Why?
Why cant Mage also be a good character to choose and to play... Why?
Why are the GMs not replying?

i guess most of MY points to the abve 2 posts have been already mentioned by dead in this post :

deadraizer wrote:ur post reminded me of those nyt crime shows on news channels XD
n btw ya it is true tht hks r gonna hv d biggest advantage, bt c dis, hks r d slowest leavellers, noobs @ lower rbs, so they proceed gradually, opposite hppns in case of mages,
if u guys play dota, understand it lyk dis
hks r late gamers n mages r early gamers, bod hv der advabmntages n disadvantages

yes, a hk cn stand tank, cn he kill? he hs sch low dmg, cn a hk hunt bettr den ne oder class? cn ne class hunt bettr den mages? if ur answer is yes, den sry to say u dunno hw to play a mage, mages r d best class fr hunting, followed by archer, den warrior n den hks
opposite order in pvps, hks r best followed by warriors, archers n den mages, so its completely balanced

tho i think ders only a thin line between archers n warriors

i totally agree with deadraizer...Well said Dead...Though i would like to add some more of my views to it !!
@Reco...
Bro...a hk cant tank 6-7 ppl at one tym that easily even on dex...even if he CAN...u can always increase the number of ppl hittin him in a war...!
wat i mean to say is that if too many ppl keep hittin a hk in war...its utterly impossible for him to keep healin and get away with it..even with RN n unlimited mp .... for instance...if u keep 4 Uni Spear Warriors out of the 7 chars hittin the hk...and imagine the damage which the warriors do on him...even if he has a bloody bar of 13-14k..he wont b able to keep healin without pottin even once....and all this has been tested by me over the period of tym..i dont state nethin without havin sufficient proofs to it ^^.. !!
Dont get me wrong but even if u dont provide him a RN..he will just stand there n heal..thats it.. !

Now ... coming to the a3india part.....u as well as i know that it is completely wrong to compare a Rb server with a 1x server.. !
Moreover i played a hk in a3india...i agree that we used to come..tank n get frags..then tp to town....but arent to ignoring one major fact?....that Hks are MEANT to TANK...they are TANKERS...they are meant to tank n support...not to attack n hit.. !

Moreover in a rb server it is quite obvious that Arena battles between 2 hks wont hav ne result .... it doesnt matter whether the hks are havin a rn or not...irrespective of the RN ... its mainly coz this is a rb server...uve got soo many points in ur bank to distribute into ur char stats... ur bars are big.... dont die that easily.. dont pot...u just heal...till the tym ur mp gets consumed...the match tym is over.. !
Regardless of the RN...Hk matches on a rb server wont giv u a conclusion.. !

@Const..
i thnk dead is completely right to state that mages are at an advantage when they want to lvl up...n when u say that Sedi n sb n stigma are the only weapons a mage has..u are completely wron...and a good mage is not determined on the basis of its unlimited Mp...but on its gameplay ... on how it gets around thngs....on how it manages thngs even without the use of unlimited Mp.. !
thats y i dnt thnk that ur Questions regardin a mage stand a good ground.. coz its not that a mage has SOO many disadvantages whereas the other classes just rule over them !

Pain wrote:Ahem !!!

who told that HKs are the slow lvlers ?? !!

dude.... after BOR..... Hks can go to High lvl maps and LvL up Much Faster than other class chars(except Mages).....

Its true that Mages lvl up faster than any other class because of its Sedi and High damage skills...

DoooooD !!!!

Archers and Warriors are the slow lvlers...... coz they can go to high lvl maps like HKs and Mages.........

Though warriors have Freeze.... but still they cant go to any High lvl maps for lvlups, because of Rangers!!!!

Similary.... though Archers have Epi 3 Multikill skill, WideDarts, still he has very Low HP bar!!!!

there are good an bad things in each an every class.......

and we are discussing the Properties of new Patch RN here....... not the properties of classes of chars!!!!!!!

And DOOOD dont tell me HKs are the slowest lvlers....... BOR Doubles ur Defense and Demon-Hunter give Imbaa Damage.........

Moreover HK & Mages in a Party lvlup like Crazy !!!!!!!!

reco BOR does play sme vital role in lvling up....but it isnt that essential ....if u wanna compare the assets with the other classes..i will feel free to state that archers hav Stone Skin..mages as it is hav their Absorbers....so it isnt true that archers hav low hp n cannot stand in higher maps..i play an archer...n i feel that i play it in such a way that i can stay in high lvl maps for quite a sufficient period of tym. !!
as for Warriors..they hav their uni skills for regeneration of hp...so unless they are totally exhausted i feel they actually dont need to repot .. !

Here the major part in speedy lvlin is that a mage doest hav to run around to lvl up...whereas the other classes just make use of their feet to do quests.. !
Even if u consider a hk n mage prty...whoz the one lvlin fast in the prty?.. not the hk..its the mage whoz running the prty for lvlin itself up..not the hk.. !
though i agree that the hk supports in giving buffs n healin the mage....that is the reason it can lvl up fast thru prties than the other classes such as warriors or archers. !
but wat me nd ead are statin here is in the case of solo lvling...not prty lvling...we mean to convey that if a class try to go n lvl up thru quests..its the mages that come up n lvl up really easy.. !
and if on a rb server like Mania..u want to consider aura lvling..i will tell u that archers are the most easy to lvl up for aura....not even mages..the CQ for archers is damn easy to do..n if u get a mage to pan u for the CQ...its a cakewalk.. !

and i dont thnk that the warriors cant hunt in higher maps just coz of rangers....warriors too hav range attacks..moreover with a uni skill such as hp regeneration they dont need to care bout ne ranger..just go n start hittin one creep till it dies...dont wrry bout ur hp..it'll regenerate itself on its own.. .. !!

reco, wich hk uses bor fr lvl up? if ders ne hk whu does tht, hes noob

const, mages r bettr in hunting, archers may b as gud as mages in bossing bt oderwise mages r bettr

obli, d only guy u cud compare urself wid ws me? lolzzz
n thanku fr tellin dead is ryt so many tyms

brisingr90 wrote:@ Deadraizer
I disagree... Archers are best in Hunting nowdays .... GP party Archer rocks not mage ... Hunting for wz in chlorence Archer rocks better than mage .... Mage has to refill after every single boss cuz of MP and as melee and skill is too slow .. Archer kills bosses faster ... Gp party Archer is best hunter as Archer has more Attack and WD is IMBA

i agree that mages cant hunt as fast as an archer in cloro map bossing.. !
but in that case if u want to really compare classes in bossing..a hk takes more tym in killin the same cloro boss than a mage..coz the hk has really low attack n is meant to be a tanker rather than an attacker.. !
and a warrior can kill the god-damn boss even quicker than an archer if u wanna consider comparing char classes with each other.. !

On the other hand..when u state that archer gp prties are better than Mage gp prties..i will hav to disagree from u on that point too.... i can state a couple of mages which giv mindfk Xp in their gp prties...not even Ghrasat archers giv that much Xp !!

deadraizer wrote: obli, d only guy u cud compare urself wid ws me? lolzzz
n thanku fr tellin dead is ryt so many tyms

abe i knew u had that cming...lol....i completely knew u were gonna type smthn like that ^^ ...btw... tereko ek baar izzat dedi...khush hoja...ab nahi dooonga...galti sirf ek hi baar hoti hai..dobaara nahi !!

ok... i am satisfied with the hunting and lvling part.....

but still m not satisfied with the War and PK part.......

there should be something which will give other class an advantage..........

Well..it has always been like thi only...that if u compare the other classes in war n PK with a mage class..the mage class always falls short of the expectations..coz the other class are better in Pkin n in wars... !

whereas the mage class is better in lvling....so dat just balances it all up.. !
u cant expect a class to be an awesum lvler n a PvP char too

in short, u cnt xpect ne class to b gm class or god class

n if u want sch a class, request gms to mk a new class called raized deads

lol..kuch bhi bolega...lulz.. !!
Typical deadraizer...he comes in n starts postin shit again !!


some Gm kindly come to this post n enlighten us to the facts relatin the new RN implementation..we've had quite a big discussion bout this thng on this thread...its tym u make some statements n conclude thngs up !

maximus wrote:Well..it has always been like thi only...that if u compare the other classes in war n PK with a mage class..the mage class always falls short of the expectations..coz the other class are better in Pkin n in wars... !

whereas the mage class is better in lvling....so dat just balances it all up.. !
u cant expect a class to be an awesum lvler n a PvP char too

so ....

Warriors are Killers...... Archers are Rangers...... Mages are LvLers.....

then what are HKs !!!!!!

tankers