
Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
@ GM s
You dont know how it feels to use E-shop item for 1 month and then have it turned into something else [ Necklace of Flower ] for so many days and then again having it for few weeks and then loosing it ! It was my first E-shop item so what do YOU think I should be happy and forget it just like that ? I had trouble collecting 2k rs as I had to earn it by myself cuz my parents wont let me waste RC on game .. And for you its just so easy to be lazy and implement this rule .. All you guys want is that the players who lost their E-shop item to buy it again ... "A3mania is non-profit organization" is bullshit and you know it in your hearts ! And now dont go on and be offended by my comment cuz its human nature "Greediness" .. Do what you want and not what players want after all its YOUR server na ? You are the owners and you can do whatever you want regardless the players ..
You dont know how it feels to use E-shop item for 1 month and then have it turned into something else [ Necklace of Flower ] for so many days and then again having it for few weeks and then loosing it ! It was my first E-shop item so what do YOU think I should be happy and forget it just like that ? I had trouble collecting 2k rs as I had to earn it by myself cuz my parents wont let me waste RC on game .. And for you its just so easy to be lazy and implement this rule .. All you guys want is that the players who lost their E-shop item to buy it again ... "A3mania is non-profit organization" is bullshit and you know it in your hearts ! And now dont go on and be offended by my comment cuz its human nature "Greediness" .. Do what you want and not what players want after all its YOUR server na ? You are the owners and you can do whatever you want regardless the players ..

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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
Are you people NUTS?
I have clearly mentioned that we are doing this to resolve a bug that has crept in. From the past 4 months, it has been evident that many people have been loosing their Mercenaries because of the RB System.
We agree that its a bad move, but we don't have any other choice. We just cant keep restoring Lost Mercs again and again, because it will add up to our work load.
It is also a known fact that many of the Mercenaries in the Server have leveled up using a Leveling Bug that has existed, due to which on Fresh RB, Your Mercenary can get a boost of EXP. So, the people who were lucky have got their Mercenaries to Level 300 easily whereas the other players were still stuck at 250s..
Being RB 12 wont affect the Merc Level up in any way. Even if you hunt, you will attain EXP and it is not dependent on the level of the character.
We will implement Rune of Fortune soon. We were not able to get it working properly and it requires more testing, so we will not be able to readily implement it.
Since the change is made to everyone and mainly inorder to resolve a BUG, I don't really think it is something that you all need to worry about. And as Warrior has said, Merc is supposed to be used for Secondary Support rather than Primary Killing.
About the loss of stuffs, We will do the required and ensure that there is no problem faced by anyone. You don't have to worry about the inactive players.
I have clearly mentioned that we are doing this to resolve a bug that has crept in. From the past 4 months, it has been evident that many people have been loosing their Mercenaries because of the RB System.
We agree that its a bad move, but we don't have any other choice. We just cant keep restoring Lost Mercs again and again, because it will add up to our work load.
It is also a known fact that many of the Mercenaries in the Server have leveled up using a Leveling Bug that has existed, due to which on Fresh RB, Your Mercenary can get a boost of EXP. So, the people who were lucky have got their Mercenaries to Level 300 easily whereas the other players were still stuck at 250s..
Being RB 12 wont affect the Merc Level up in any way. Even if you hunt, you will attain EXP and it is not dependent on the level of the character.
We will implement Rune of Fortune soon. We were not able to get it working properly and it requires more testing, so we will not be able to readily implement it.
Since the change is made to everyone and mainly inorder to resolve a BUG, I don't really think it is something that you all need to worry about. And as Warrior has said, Merc is supposed to be used for Secondary Support rather than Primary Killing.
About the loss of stuffs, We will do the required and ensure that there is no problem faced by anyone. You don't have to worry about the inactive players.
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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
brisingr90 wrote:I agree with Eros ...
I lost my E-Shop RN too and I lost it on the day the rules were implemented .. Even then the GMs say they would not do anything ... I have warned all my friends and newcomers to mania about the pathetic condition here .. 562 client has removed much of things instead of implementing it !
They removed :
1 Prevention of item loss upon death
2 Auto potting
3 Ruby, topaz, garnet from npc
4 Stab and catalyst from npc
5 Storage box from npc
6 Crystals from npc
7 Kawon (for KW) from towns
8 PK from Grinta Park
9 Players Listing and Hall of fame
10 Mercy Rebirth (Latest)
And What Have They Implemented ? NOTHING !!!
1 No Mercy Quest as promised
2 No items that lvl up weapons above lvl 10 as promised
3 No Rebirth 13 as promised
4 No Runes of Hope and Faith as promised
The Only thing they could manage is G10 set options
So If You ask me .... Client 562 Sucks !!!
u rock i 500% Agree with u and u just said what i wanted to say ... Gms c u are gm of the game and u own the server u cant just let everything happen like this man u are simply saying that u know our answer thats not gud ....... remember Gms we are the one who made ur server run

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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
You have got problems from the neu implementations right from the beginning of dese introductions.I dont support any of you neither i take the GMs side.All you are complaining about is because somehow you had a personel benefit from it.Why dont you think about balancing the game.brisingr90 wrote:I agree with Eros ...
I lost my E-Shop RN too and I lost it on the day the rules were implemented .. Even then the GMs say they would not do anything ... I have warned all my friends and newcomers to mania about the pathetic condition here .. 562 client has removed much of things instead of implementing it !
They removed :
1 Prevention of item loss upon death
2 Auto potting
3 Ruby, topaz, garnet from npc
4 Stab and catalyst from npc
5 Storage box from npc
6 Crystals from npc
7 Kawon (for KW) from towns
8 PK from Grinta Park
9 Players Listing and Hall of fame
10 Mercy Rebirth (Latest)
And What Have They Implemented ? NOTHING !!!
1 No Mercy Quest as promised
2 No items that lvl up weapons above lvl 10 as promised
3 No Rebirth 13 as promised
4 No Runes of Hope and Faith as promised
The Only thing they could manage is G10 set options
So If You ask me .... Client 562 Sucks !!!
1 Prevention of item loss upon death ~ Dont u think it makes game more interesting when you are always worried about losing ur valuables.I think this step was of upmost importance and thanks GMs did it.
2 Auto potting ~ Again ur personel benefit.Autopot n go afk.Why want to make the game BOT-Oriented.
3 Ruby, topaz, garnet from npc ~ U r meant to hunt.The more u hunt the more gud for u.Again you want a short-cut.
4 Stab and catalyst from npc ~ U r meant to hunt.The more u hunt the more gud for u.Again you want a short-cut.Even im in great need of dem but i dont complain.Why only YOU ?
5 Storage box from npc ~ Why are the box materials dropped ? You need to collect them and make the boxes urself.Again u want shortcut.
6 Crystals from npc ~ Same as above
7 Kawon (for KW) from towns ~ What is the use of HK.Kwaons actually degraded the need for HK.Now they have their status given back to them.(Earlier was highly unfair considering the HK class)
8 PK from Grinta Park ~ You got many other maps where PK is allowed
9 Players Listing and Hall of fame ~ Never required Added problems.
10 Mercy Rebirth ~ Warrior said it.Merc is meant to support and not lead you.
Criticise me as im ready to answer all the questions.
Just think abt balancing the game rather than ur personel advantage and see the difference.
Thankyou
~zrt
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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
Zorathus wrote: 3 Ruby, topaz, garnet from npc ~ U r meant to hunt.The more u hunt the more gud for u.Again you want a short-cut.
8 PK from Grinta Park ~ You got many other maps where PK is allowed
10 Mercy Rebirth ~ Warrior said it.Merc is meant to support and not lead you.
3)ok tell me how u wud get ele stones for a rb12 char?
8) we leveled in pk...why should newcomers be spared? call me sadistic call me greedy...i dont want others to have the advantages and get the easy way out when i wasnt offered the same thing
10) show me how many cloro bosses u can kill without a merc. or how u wud kill a ranias without a merc. show me and ill accept how MERCS wont be the leader in that aspect...
dont say "dont kill ranias" cos at least this server gives us the happiness of killing a ranias...
GOD bosses are a dream...even after askin the GMs for tips...i haven't got any productive answers...GOD bosses are just for showoff...to show that even mania has god bosses to offer...
AND LOL!!! since the day 562 has been released...i've been screaming my arse off in forums abt uni armour drops.
Warrior said he himself tested it till the uni armour dropped. so definitely 4 months of hunting in sidhe and higher maps dint give us the drops warrior got in 1 day of testing right?
why make promises when u cant keep them..THE SOLE REASON I LIKED 562 was for removal of auto pot and UNIQUE ARMOUR ITEMS!!
and rb13...thats like a lightyear away lol!!
and btw...give us a deadline of when u wud do the merc reset thing GMs...cos we cant run around with naked mercs all day...and please give us a headstart of 48 hours at least before u do it...so that we can tell those who arent aware of the problem...
btw we arent criticizing...if we wanted to...we wud never inform those other players...retrieving thier items would be ur burden...
dont take it in a way that all the players shouting out here are just greedy...and dont give a crap abt the hard work ur putting in...
we know ur working hard and we appreciate it...we always have shown our support...nothing ever prospers without proper feedback...we are just being responsible critics!
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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
i jus wanna corect u dat topas,ruby,and saphire nt droped by monsters u hav 2 do q for dem .
And by da way tel me any q wch cn be taken by A5 char wch gv these things
And by da way tel me any q wch cn be taken by A5 char wch gv these things
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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
1st hunting more for Ruby, topaz, garnet doesn't make any sense.Zorathus wrote:
3 Ruby, topaz, garnet from npc ~ U r meant to hunt.The more u hunt the more gud for u.Again you want a short-cut.
Criticise me as im ready to answer all the questions.
Just think abt balancing the game rather than ur personel advantage and see the difference.
~zrt
2nd u wana give answers to all questions! so b4 all other questions y dont u reply to ma previous post in this topic.
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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
A5 players cn mk ruby,topaz n sapphire thru a few qs by arena npc, n tht q is quite fun too
storage box removal frm npc ws an awesm thing acc to me, finally those 4 basic items hv sm use
uni armors hvnt dropped, well yeah tht seems weird
merc rb thing, i think v shud rather w8 n c wht wud hppn aftr its implemented
removing pk frm GP, well, tht ws wrng especially aftr u hv chngd d parole thing soooo mch tht 1 kill also means a lot of chances of item dropping, n ya y shud newbies b spared? avoiding pk n still completing a q cud actly improve ur gameplay n mk u a bettr player
n rb 13, well, no comments here coz i hvnt e1 reached rb 11
storage box removal frm npc ws an awesm thing acc to me, finally those 4 basic items hv sm use
uni armors hvnt dropped, well yeah tht seems weird
merc rb thing, i think v shud rather w8 n c wht wud hppn aftr its implemented
removing pk frm GP, well, tht ws wrng especially aftr u hv chngd d parole thing soooo mch tht 1 kill also means a lot of chances of item dropping, n ya y shud newbies b spared? avoiding pk n still completing a q cud actly improve ur gameplay n mk u a bettr player
n rb 13, well, no comments here coz i hvnt e1 reached rb 11


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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
Dead..Avoiding PK n cmpleting a Q can teach u gameplay?...my stinkin foot it teaches u gameplay
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I dunnoe bout nething...n i dnt wanna comment bout nething...try living with the change instead of opposing it... !
the only thng im njoyin ryte nw is the Removal of crystals....frm the Npc..ke ke...i need white crystals n now i am literally hunting for them in maps..its really fun .... heh
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n i want to remind all of u that all these items hav not been wat u call REMOVED from the Npc...they've just been shifted to some other category by which we can acquire all of them via Mark of Rubals...Though i do feel that the Gms shuld Fiind out some way by which players can get Mark of Rubals Ingame..so dat we arent just Event-Dependant for the rubals n hav a chance to wear those s3xC dresses too
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I dunnoe bout nething...n i dnt wanna comment bout nething...try living with the change instead of opposing it... !
the only thng im njoyin ryte nw is the Removal of crystals....frm the Npc..ke ke...i need white crystals n now i am literally hunting for them in maps..its really fun .... heh

n i want to remind all of u that all these items hav not been wat u call REMOVED from the Npc...they've just been shifted to some other category by which we can acquire all of them via Mark of Rubals...Though i do feel that the Gms shuld Fiind out some way by which players can get Mark of Rubals Ingame..so dat we arent just Event-Dependant for the rubals n hav a chance to wear those s3xC dresses too


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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
rofl it is such a long q dat il die doing itdeadraizer wrote:A5 players cn mk ruby,topaz n sapphire thru a few qs by arena npc, n tht q is quite fun too
storage box removal frm npc ws an awesm thing acc to me, finally those 4 basic items hv sm use
uni armors hvnt dropped, well yeah tht seems weird
merc rb thing, i think v shud rather w8 n c wht wud hppn aftr its implemented
removing pk frm GP, well, tht ws wrng especially aftr u hv chngd d parole thing soooo mch tht 1 kill also means a lot of chances of item dropping, n ya y shud newbies b spared? avoiding pk n still completing a q cud actly improve ur gameplay n mk u a bettr player
n rb 13, well, no comments here coz i hvnt e1 reached rb 11

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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
All what im saying is that not all but a few players are suggesting ideas which will benefit them.I hav been playing this server right from the beginning and what this server is today is a whole new thing.Few things were really unfair like auto-potting, Kwaon n all those things are sorted.Regarding drops its all that people dont want to work.All those rb12 people cry for being rb12.
You have been given 5 spots in ur account to make char.If u cant do few important things with ur so called high rb char, my only suggestion is to make a low rb char and fulfill all ur requirements.Utilize the game aspects rather than accusing someone for doing something.Just host a server for 1 week at ur place and see ur bizarre situation.Its not easy job.
I've even heard people losing their e-shop items being dropped and then they complain that they have paid for it.I think they forgot the e-shop rules.Hav a look :
"If neu players hav suffered before they must suffer now."
The above statement is so rude.No comparison can be done in this regard.
Finally all i hav to say is people here dont give FEEDBACK.Its all that they oppose each and evry decision of the GMs.Seems many of u cannot cope with changes.In that case host ur own server and play on ur rules.
~ThanQ
You have been given 5 spots in ur account to make char.If u cant do few important things with ur so called high rb char, my only suggestion is to make a low rb char and fulfill all ur requirements.Utilize the game aspects rather than accusing someone for doing something.Just host a server for 1 week at ur place and see ur bizarre situation.Its not easy job.
I've even heard people losing their e-shop items being dropped and then they complain that they have paid for it.I think they forgot the e-shop rules.Hav a look :
1. You are not purchasing time, services, or goods. All ingame accounts are property of A3 Mania.
2. You Acknowledge that A3 Mania does not sell services or goods related to the game A3 Mania. They are only codes edited in your account.
3. If your account is terminated for any reason, you are not entitled to a reimbursement.
4. Donation gifts will not be replaced if lost, stolen, or dropped in game.
5. Donations can't be returned to customers after they completed.
"If neu players hav suffered before they must suffer now."
The above statement is so rude.No comparison can be done in this regard.
Finally all i hav to say is people here dont give FEEDBACK.Its all that they oppose each and evry decision of the GMs.Seems many of u cannot cope with changes.In that case host ur own server and play on ur rules.
~ThanQ
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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
@ Zorathus
what u saying is right to certain extent. but u are only talking about the same points again n again.
i still dont get it y r u supporting the gms so blindly.
btw u didnt give any of the answer to ma questions and if u still dont gt them then let me help u
1.its about scam issues(i dont mind item loss but banning scammers is a priority or take some other actions)
2.gms dont even replying ma posts. so i think they are not working up to there mark
so tell me wads wrong in that
about gms, i also think they have done a lot of things to keep mania at its best but i also feel that there are few more thing which would have made it even better.
and yeah i guess u missed this
6. Handing out the Gifts can take a while, but normaly you get it in max 48hours.
what u saying is right to certain extent. but u are only talking about the same points again n again.
i still dont get it y r u supporting the gms so blindly.
btw u didnt give any of the answer to ma questions and if u still dont gt them then let me help u
1.its about scam issues(i dont mind item loss but banning scammers is a priority or take some other actions)
2.gms dont even replying ma posts. so i think they are not working up to there mark
so tell me wads wrong in that
about gms, i also think they have done a lot of things to keep mania at its best but i also feel that there are few more thing which would have made it even better.
and yeah i guess u missed this
6. Handing out the Gifts can take a while, but normaly you get it in max 48hours.
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Re: Mercenary Level Up Issue..!!
lol like we said in another topic....ask the GMs to put them for 1 mill each ele stone...we'll buy from NPC..
u think its fun hunting for rubies and shit after struggling to make a rb12 char?
non auras can get by questing...we'll get by buying it for insane prices...whats wrong in that...or implement ele stones drop in maps...instead of OPGs...bloody sucky success rate OPGs have...
and dude...ur hardly active in game...if u lvled with all of Q rb11 aura 5s behind a rb4 110 lvl char n still managed to make it rb11 aura 5 u'd understand how difficult it was...
when m devoting so much to a game...i expect stuff to be unbiased...even i've got a rb12 aura 1 cahr and m lvling it afk in gp...if i was so selfish...i wudnt have asked for it...cos it wud make my hk lvling a lot easier...
and yes...no offence but...sitting in the forum doesnt give u the clear picture...try being active in game u'll understand the problems...
what ur doing sounds like some rich politician saying...ah yes i understand ur problems but i dont think they're that relevant...step down and look into the scenario...
~Cheerz!!
u think its fun hunting for rubies and shit after struggling to make a rb12 char?
non auras can get by questing...we'll get by buying it for insane prices...whats wrong in that...or implement ele stones drop in maps...instead of OPGs...bloody sucky success rate OPGs have...
and dude...ur hardly active in game...if u lvled with all of Q rb11 aura 5s behind a rb4 110 lvl char n still managed to make it rb11 aura 5 u'd understand how difficult it was...
when m devoting so much to a game...i expect stuff to be unbiased...even i've got a rb12 aura 1 cahr and m lvling it afk in gp...if i was so selfish...i wudnt have asked for it...cos it wud make my hk lvling a lot easier...
and yes...no offence but...sitting in the forum doesnt give u the clear picture...try being active in game u'll understand the problems...
what ur doing sounds like some rich politician saying...ah yes i understand ur problems but i dont think they're that relevant...step down and look into the scenario...
~Cheerz!!