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Gm, Admin and Event Gm's.

Firstly i would like to say, its great to see events like the team war being held again . Will try to find some time to make it there . Anyway i wanted to raise the question abt the class based war. As most of the players know in a rb server it is impossible to kill a hk with bragir and heal once he reaches aura stage if he is above rb 5 +.

Now when you pple make a event shouldn't it be fair to all classes??? Now u guys hooked up a mage with a hk, the hk can heal the mage and himself whole match without loosing a pot , with both carrying dex weapons it will be literally impossible to kill them. Now how do u call this a fair event????? where 1 side is totally not fair vs another side. Eventually we know that mage and hk combo will win for sure.

Look at this situation now. Once a hk is rb 5 + even if he is a ultra noob with a bragir, the max dmg a rb 12 archer can do on him is 750 each shot ( the dmg is very messed up on this server), and the hk with aura 5 will have a hp bar of atleast 6k - 7k if rb 5 with aura 5, rb 10 + will have 9k +. The max dmg a warrior can do with unique spear is like 850-900, with high cruise(which i will say again is not working as it shud, speed is not 2.5 x) may be 1000 max. Now if both archer and warrior whack the hk he can just heal himself and make the opponent use pots and his partner the mage can do the same. Now if the archer and warrior hit the mage, the hk can surely heal the mage too same way, now how can u call this a fair event?? When u guys make a event u shud think thoroughly first if all the 4 calsses in a rb server are FAIR??

In a normal no rb server the game is totally fair coz all have small hp bars and it adds more challenge and gameplay to the game. In a same game where it has been modded with Rebirths u shud know the consequences of how some characters become excessively powerful from other characters. The heal skill of the hk becomes very unfair vs other classes with the rebirth mod.

There was already a topic made on this discussion before and u guys said u will see abt this at events:
http://forum.a3mania.com/viewtopic.php? ... heal#p3226

Now that i have given my explanation, i would like to suggest the following:
Let the event run, the same way with a small and minor change to it. Archer and warrior will only battle its same class, and mage and hk will only battle its same class. The event will run in 2 sets, where archer and warrior will be set 1, and mage and hk will be set 2. The battle between the same classes will be much more biased and add much more fun to the players. Archer and warrior vs archer and warrior in my opinion is the most fun pvp as it gets over fast and pots get used too, and the audience always like a fast and fun pvp rather than a boring and long pvp where neither team is dying which will be he case of mage and hk vs mage and hk teams.

There will be a winner of SET 1, and a winner of SET 2. End of event!

Now for the second request, When u guys make events and promise gifts to the winners why don't u give the gifts?? Last team based war we won the event ( me and bauer) and we didn't receive any lj sj or exp books, after 2 days of asking we got 1 bill wz which we had to share 500 mill each and to date haven't received our lj sj and exp books. Also after i won the auction event i am yet to receive my sj box to date.

Anyway let me know ur response to the event suggestion.

the hk is good in dis event, but see d other events lyk bossing events, where hk's r useless, they cnt hunt as good as mages or archers, lvling up is also extremely difficult for an hk (compared wid mage and archer).
Cnt say nething bout warrior, they mite suck in all events
but I think its nt wrng b'coz hk's r made for PvP.

There is a solution to this...change the damage calculation in this server. That will solve all the problems.

GhostWalker wrote:Gm, Admin and Event Gm's.

Firstly i would like to say, its great to see events like the team war being held again . Will try to find some time to make it there . Anyway i wanted to raise the question abt the class based war. As most of the players know in a rb server it is impossible to kill a hk with bragir and heal once he reaches aura stage if he is above rb 5 +.

Now when you pple make a event shouldn't it be fair to all classes??? Now u guys hooked up a mage with a hk, the hk can heal the mage and himself whole match without loosing a pot , with both carrying dex weapons it will be literally impossible to kill them. Now how do u call this a fair event????? where 1 side is totally not fair vs another side. Eventually we know that mage and hk combo will win for sure.

Look at this situation now. Once a hk is rb 5 + even if he is a ultra noob with a bragir, the max dmg a rb 12 archer can do on him is 750 each shot ( the dmg is very messed up on this server), and the hk with aura 5 will have a hp bar of atleast 6k - 7k if rb 5 with aura 5, rb 10 + will have 9k +. The max dmg a warrior can do with unique spear is like 850-900, with high cruise(which i will say again is not working as it shud, speed is not 2.5 x) may be 1000 max. Now if both archer and warrior whack the hk he can just heal himself and make the opponent use pots and his partner the mage can do the same. Now if the archer and warrior hit the mage, the hk can surely heal the mage too same way, now how can u call this a fair event?? When u guys make a event u shud think thoroughly first if all the 4 calsses in a rb server are FAIR??

In a normal no rb server the game is totally fair coz all have small hp bars and it adds more challenge and gameplay to the game. In a same game where it has been modded with Rebirths u shud know the consequences of how some characters become excessively powerful from other characters. The heal skill of the hk becomes very unfair vs other classes with the rebirth mod.

There was already a topic made on this discussion before and u guys said u will see abt this at events:
http://forum.a3mania.com/viewtopic.php? ... heal#p3226

Now that i have given my explanation, i would like to suggest the following:
Let the event run, the same way with a small and minor change to it. Archer and warrior will only battle its same class, and mage and hk will only battle its same class. The event will run in 2 sets, where archer and warrior will be set 1, and mage and hk will be set 2. The battle between the same classes will be much more biased and add much more fun to the players. Archer and warrior vs archer and warrior in my opinion is the most fun pvp as it gets over fast and pots get used too, and the audience always like a fast and fun pvp rather than a boring and long pvp where neither team is dying which will be he case of mage and hk vs mage and hk teams.

There will be a winner of SET 1, and a winner of SET 2. End of event!

Now for the second request, When u guys make events and promise gifts to the winners why don't u give the gifts?? Last team based war we won the event ( me and bauer) and we didn't receive any lj sj or exp books, after 2 days of asking we got 1 bill wz which we had to share 500 mill each and to date haven't received our lj sj and exp books. Also after i won the auction event i am yet to receive my sj box to date.

Anyway let me know ur response to the event suggestion.

@ gw check the results of the the Event Part I

and BTW no uniqs r allowed in dis event, so hk's wnt b using dex

Ass4ult wrote:There is a solution to this...change the damage calculation in this server. That will solve all the problems.

Very true, The dmg is very very messed up on this server. According to some of my calculations the dmg that shud be done by warriors at late game with normal cruise it self shud be veryyyy high (around 1800-2000) at rb 10 + stage with aura. Also dmg done by other classes is totally down, not at all right. There are various other things in pvp that do not work. i do not want to spill them out as it as many pple are still not aware of it.
1 more important thing to note is that episode 5 skills which are bought from the e-shop, do not function in pvp for sure, i have tested it again and again, in hunting and in pvp ( inside arena and outside arena), they surely do not work for warriors as they are supposed to. High cruise, deny mechanism, there 2 skills do not function as they are supposed to at all. High cruise does not increase the attack speed at all, if the speed is increased warriors will be a bit insane. imagine hitting 2.5 x faster. if opponent hits u 10 shots u will hit him 25 shots in the same time period. That is the way it is supposed to work.

rohitsinghania wrote:]
@ gw check the results of the the Event Part I

I am referring to aura lvl here only, and in aura lvl matches last time, no hk healed at all. Harry knight and Arcangel3000 both didn't use bragir, even though arcan had a bragir for use. He used his pots and the same was with harry knight. It was a fun pvp and a bit unfair at same time, they didn't have any e - shop items so .

deadraizer wrote:and BTW no uniqs r allowed in dis event, so hk's wnt b using dex

lol i am sure many pple will withdraw their named with this new rule. This is something GM shud think hard upon before making decision. There shud be no dex unique, but str uniques can be allowed.This rule here can make it a fair event against the hk's also, the heal skill is soo rigged that it still wont matter for the hk. Now if u r talking abt normal weapon dmg i must say that at aura stages when u r rb 10 +, with a normal weapon the dmg is sooooo sad, that is is even more impossible to kill ur opponent. The dmg as i have said above is soooo messed up that it is hard to do good dmg. Or you can also add the rule, where u can say no unique's weapons which are bought from e shop can be used in this event. Now pple who haven't bought e- shop weapons and have found weapons in game, they can use it if they want. This will add a lot more fun in the game rather than saying no uniques.

it wnt b fair allowing str uniqs only, thn grahsat wud b pawnage

deadraizer wrote:it wnt b fair allowing str uniqs only, thn grahsat wud b pawnage

lol grahsat doesnt compare to unique spear at all. Have u ever seen the dmg dealt by a unique spear? crits are around 2100 for a unique spear, grahsat will do only 1800-1900. This dmg is on g10 sets of same aura 5 lvl. And also this is in arena not outside, outside spear is a killer!!!

Is it necessary for is to speak regarding damages or would you like to refer mine and Scar's older replies to anything related to server damage calculations, functions, probabilities?

Plain and Simple "We cannot change, edit or even touch the values. It is how the game is; was developed by Actoz; will be always". All those values are inaccessible as we do not have the source code.

Other Event related things/rules are decided by Kai. He is Boss for Events here.

Kai, it is my request to u to allow str unique to be allowed in future events and no dex. This will add more fun than making the hk imbalanced vs other classes.

rofl either uniqs r allowed or else no uniqs... grashat archers would pawn all in arena

+1

If you have strength unqiue, then the only way to defend that is using Dex unique... So All Uniques or NO Uniques.

[GM]Scar wrote:If you have strength unqiue, then the only way to defend that is using Dex unique... So All Uniques or NO Uniques.

+1

[GM]Scar wrote:If you have strength unqiue, then the only way to defend that is using Dex unique... So All Uniques or NO Uniques.

+1