A Noble request!!!

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CharName: Tzar

Is it an Issue or a Question to GM?: Issue

Have you raised a support ticket at the main website?: No

Issue or Question Type: Ingame Issue or Query

Description and Message


Respected Gms,

1.1 Donation is required for the server to run. No donation.. No A3 Mania. So respect players who donate.. Dont make them feel behind. The reason you are playing on the server is due to the valued donation by them. Any verbal targetting of the donators will be dealt strictly. We value them and do not want any of the players to look down on them. This is a very imoprtant rule which might even lead you to be banned.

Subject:-This a mere request to the Gms to have some respect towards the e-shoppers.

I respect the authority and responsibility of Gms in the server. You have been carrying out your task with a surge of urgency and politeness. Respectfully, you have been performing your task up to the level required. After such a big plot behind A3, success of its development lies in your hands. I can guarantee you that its already a mere success and hopefully we will be taking it to the next step.
Sometimes I feel like leaving all my work and household shit and play the game all the way, hence I have been donating shit loads of money behind the server, in doing so, i have minimized my own needs and have cared about players ingame.
However I see a fault in front of me. Its a clear divider which is putting me off to provide any more help to the server, Its letting me off. My Grahsat has been dropped on a account of my mistake, I have accepted my fault in doing so, hence I am liable to be fined. But, this is foolishness if I dont get it back, it would disrespectful on your side. On this note, I would like you to read the Clause mentioned above. Please, I respect your comments on the issue, hence I would suggest you do the same.
My investment so far is null as compared to the one in future. Surely, you have been seeing this, and will be seeing this in the future. Again, Please show your kind support on the issue. Many players ingame are waiting for me to supply them eshop items, but i cant be asked to buy it anymore if I dont have a solution to the above case.
I know you have a life to entertain outside game, but please do understand from our point of view as well.
I wont take much of your time, but Please respond as quick as possible.


Happy Hours playing

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[[GM]Blade]

Request Denied

I have had enough debate with you on the issue. We haven't helped anyone who has dropped their items. We have made clear rules and we will stick to them.

There is no use of making more arguments about this one. It would be a clear NO. I am sorry to say this, but its totally impossible to return the item from the one who has got it.

What if the person who has got the item questions us saying why the item has been removed when he has acquired it legally? He would question us why an exception has been made in his case. What should we answer?

Even if you are a donator, we don't give you a special or a VIP treatment. Rules apply to everyone. You are donating to the server and you get the benefit out of it. No more supernatural benefits or something that is against the rules.

Sorry If i was harsh, but arguing wont help. I have talked about this issue lots and lots of times. Same issue over and over again.

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well..srry for bumpin like dis...but the eshop delivery issue... Blade can u kindly inform scar that many ppl on the server are waiting for their eshop items to be delivered n gettin a bit impatient... !

Also we hav some minor issues also which he can see to once he comes online..or u can do that too... !

But if scar has to handle the delivery thng then kindly inform him to try n come online once !

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Respected Gms,
This was a request rather a not a debate about a particular issue. I would accept a solution and not agonized replies in return.
Well, Why dont we consider facts in the above issue??
You said "we have never returned dropped items??"
Well, should I have to repeat the case of RN drop by character Deadraizer?? You have come across this situation before, so please dont say its happening for the first time. This is a similar case, so please dont mock around saying you havent come across a situation like this before.
Being a donator, and I have never expected any "supernatural benefits" from the GMS. Did I ever cry for it in regards to it? Well, its a thoughtful decision which you have to make whether to help the people who are helping them run the server or not.
Keep a place of humanity in between your virtual life, which would make you think a bit sane in the above regards.
Thanking you,
Tzar.

[crista]

TO GMS, First of all I know no GM is going to reply to above post . Because they dont have a valid reply. When i asked the same question to all of them they never had a reply. I never wanted to take this issue to forums as long as GMs replied me properly with a valid reason. Let me ask you guys something. You had been resolving issues for people who drop their e-shop items intentionally on ground( taking the item and dropping). IF some1 else pick them up,you guys get to that charecter, take back his stuff and return the stuff to the owner. How the hell does this get along with your rules ??
Let us take an example : Assume that a charecter named A drop his E shop item Sunitz level 15 on the ground INTENTIONALLY OR BY CARELESNESS. Charecter named B takes it and says wont return. According to the rules, the sunitz level 15 belongs to B. But, in this server, somehow the rules are made in such a way that A will get back his e-shop item. SO the GMs take the item back from B and return it to A.
I never told that this is a wrong thing did by the GMs because without e-shop players the server would go down like anything. So, the GMs have took the right decision in returning the e-shop item to its owner even though he had lost it and B has got it according to the rules.
Let me come to my point now : Why not the same for players who run out of saving scrool while in T4 killing ranias and drop lvl 15 e-shop unique ? The player is ready to pay a penalty. All that I am asking is why help one group of people( who intentionally drop precious e-shop items) and neglect other side( who die and drop real cash item with 0 paroles, high contribution to server economy and is ready to pay a penalty to recover item.) All I ask is to help all e-shop players and come up with a solution. GMs should find a way rather than asking us "What can we reply if he says that he has got it legally??" Do the same thing as you guys do wen u return stuffs that are dropped intentionally. Please do not tell that no such circumstance have raised when you guys have returned stuffs that has been dropped intentionally and other charecter has recieved it.

I strongly think that the rule that says that the 2nd party has received legally is applicable for non e shop items and not for e-shop items. How can some1 who does nothing to contribute to server enjoy some1 else's cash ?? Please inform us with a valid reply and do not repeat same sentence " RULES ARE RULES." We are bored as much as you are with this issue and repeating the same thing and not getting a valid reply. This is not an argument and we are interested in gaming and love A3. Just want to point out that some rules are lame. So please do not consider this as an argument and treat it as a suggestion.

[[GM]Blade]

Scar is on a 15 day leave. Drop a 5K. I will be online today for the Eshop Stuffs.

Manual drop and Item drop on death are different cases. Manual dropping is a mistake. We would make some considerations ONLY IF WE ARE IN A STATE TO RETURN BACK THE ITEM.

If its Item drop on death, we are least bothered. It happens due to Parole and that is how the game is meant to be. Also there are dropping chances without Parole which is clearly mentioned. And moreover if we had to return all the dropped on death items, why are people selling and buying saving scrolls? Can't they just be on a blind belief that GMs are going to return their dropped Grade 10s or Grade 9s? I guess all these people ain't dumb to just waste time and effort of something useless in your perspective.

Give answers to these questions:

1. Many people have dropped their items on death in the past. If we return your item, we will have to return the items of everyone. How could such a thing be possible?

2. What if the person who got it cross questions us about the Rules that we have ignored? Should we tell that we have made an exception because the owner of the Grahsat was arguing over it?

[[GM]Blade]

Let me come to my point now : Why not the same for players who run out of saving scrool while in T4 killing ranias and drop lvl 15 e-shop unique ? The player is ready to pay a penalty. All that I am asking is why help one group of people( who intentionally drop precious e-shop items) and neglect other side( who die and drop real cash item with 0 paroles, high contribution to server economy and is ready to pay a penalty to recover item.) All I ask is to help all e-shop players and come up with a solution.

Dropped has 2 Meanings. Item drop on death and manual item drop on the floor. I don't think people are stupid enough to drop items on the floor except accidentally.

Item drop on death is a part of the game. I see no use of people selling Saving Scrolls ingame if we were meant to return all the items that are dropped. Penantly for Playerkilling is Parole. Having Parole will increase Item Dropping chances. This is how the game is meant to be. If we are going to return the items, its totally pointless. Why to buy Saving Scrolls, and why to bother about parole? We understand that you have paid for the item, but we cannot spoil the game experience of others for your mistakes. We just treat Eshop Items as a Gifts for donations and we show no consideration over lost items.

Your Grahsat is History. There is nothing that we can do about it. Live it. We don't need any Suggestions because we totally know what we are doing.

Returning the item is just a Seconds work for us. Items dropped on death wont be returned. Its a Rule and will be followed. We don't have a Rule saying that Items dropped on the Floor will not be returned. We may return based on the investigation and aftermath, but for Item drop on death, we have clearly mentioned the rules that would apply.

You may browse through the forum to find out more about the rules. Also you may find references to old Topics dealing with people having similar issues. I bet you cannot find an affirmative reply.

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Respected Blade,
People play this server to have fun!! We are not mocking around like a foolish bunch of kids and neither we are stubborn enough to understand the difference between right and wrong.
Upon decision making, this point of view should be kept in mind that whatever you say would not be acceptable unless you sound logical/ wise in performing your task.
By giving such examples, your illustrating a totally unlawful decision which could be debatable for future reference. The reason I made this "Post" open to the public was to illustrate, how badly the server manipulates with the players.
Lets not forget about the facts.......
Tell me something, "What do you mean by ""Manual item drop on the floor""?" and even tell me " Isnt that a ""part of the game"" ??
If a item dropped on death is a valid form of "item droppings"....then is a "Item dropped on floor intentionally " a valid form of drop??
If you could justify that statement without unlawful tacts as used previously , then I would be more than happy to accept your decision.
I am totally confused to be honest, I dont understand what you mean by your "Dropping Rules"?

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Let me answer your question:
1) If "Deadraizer" drops it intentionally, he gets his item back , but if "Crista" drops it on death, he shouldnt get his item back. The only reason behind is, Crista dropped the item on death( very natural ) and " Deadraizer " was foolish enough to drop it on the floor for others to pick it up. So wiseful!!! I am not being sarcastic, but I would have loved to be around "deadraizer" everytime when he logs in, just need to wait for the right time, until he drops one more item. Hopefully, I would be one of many to stick around his back waiting for a item drop.
Thats exactly how it sounds like.....

2) Wow, and If I get that item, I would be overjoyed!!! Later on, after a week or so when " Deadraizer" raises a ticket about " Dropped item due to mistake " , my item which I gained "legally" would be snatched away from me for nothing. How unlawful!!! I would be so depressed!!! I would surely go down to forum and raise a ticket for the issue, but unfortunately after a day or two I would get a reply from Gms "DECLARING THAT", " Gms have made an exception to the clause, item drop was a mistake, you have to wait for deadraizer to die to pick his item up. Your Item is History. There is nothing that we can do about it. Live it. We don't need any Suggestions because we totally know what we are doing. "
Thats exactly how it sounds like....Does that pop up in your midst??
What I am trying to say is, your rules have defects!!! "Rules are made in betterment of players". In this case, its more of a prejudice!!!!....

[[GM]Warrior]

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