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New Rb System

Post by Loverboy »

Well as a player i have to commend you on your hard work to impliment this new system, i am sure you all have worked hard to achieve this.

This new system will be better , but in my opinion the Rb skill points should not be linear as they appear to be now .

It appears every Rb you get awarded an extra 300 points .

Up to Rb 5 This is fine. however to get to RB 6 Rb 7 needs a bit of bossing so for this RB i would have thought 600 points etra at this RB level would be more fairer .

And for RB 8 RB 9 ( lot of hard work ) maybe a 1000+ points extra per RB level increased.

I do not agree with this Linear 300 points as to get to RB needs a lot of work and 300 points seems little compensation.

This new system will also make players vunerable to PK, and i can see the abuse level in this server being like every other server :( .

I hope you will keep an eye on the shouts and keep this server a fun place to be or many will just leave as abuse is not fun , it should not be tolerated

People need to learn the difference between banter and abuse
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Re: New Rb System

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I totally agree with Loverboy. Linear reward of skill points will again lead to same position as before because indirectly it will be like we r getting rb after 50lvl (6*50=300pts) nd skill pts remain intact.

I strongly support the non linear skill point reward. Higher rb chars must get more points.
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Re: New Rb System

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This RB system sucks ..
The old one was way better
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It sucks or not sucks, It is going to be used from now on.

And 300 stats points is constant per RB. We dont want the stats to overshoot. Only on reset, u will get 1000 extra stat pnts.

This the way which is stays. Try figuring out everything according to that.
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Re: New Rb System

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well, one of the main reason i bought a redyan necklace from e-shop was so that i can take out points from mana after each rb and allot it to intel-dex... with the new rb system introduced, it seems like a waste of money now...any insight????
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Psylocke wrote:well, one of the main reason i bought a redyan necklace from e-shop was so that i can take out points from mana after each rb and allot it to intel-dex... with the new rb system introduced, it seems like a waste of money now...any insight????
Rite now it seems hard.. but this Rb system is best for the long term. Just carry on for few days and you will figure out.
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Re: New Rb System

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And 300 stats points is constant per RB. We dont want the stats to overshoot

Think you got this wrong , 300 extra points for an Rb above Rb 6/7 is not sufficient if a player works his socks off to get a higher RB then the rewards / benefit should be a lot more .

And a Redyan necklace is still a great advantage you can still reduce your points in Mana and as you have less points now as a total the advantage will be greater.............

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Think you got this wrong , 300 extra points for an Rb above Rb 6/7 is not sufficient if a player works his socks off to get a higher RB then the rewards / benefit should be a lot more .
Let us Decide that. You probably dont understand and wont understand why it has been kept at 300.

There are 7 resets in total and 15 RB in each reset. Each reset you get extra 1000 points.

The points were kept at 300 so that the stats of chars are balanced till all the RBs. What do you think will happen if we assign higher stat points?? For 15*7 RBs??? Stats will be very high compared to the decided stats of the creeps.

Epi 1 and Epi 2 will have normal stats whers CLor maps will have 1.5X, Sidhe and SG 2x.

If we provide more stats then the stats will go way above and it will overshoot.

Try to co-operate with what has been done and live with it. It is in best intereset of everyone. I will not make any changes which are not beneficial. I also cant explain all the complex maths, formula's and equations required to make this work. We worked our ass off to make this work correctly.

One more important point is scripting, coding and editing everything is not easy. If we kept variable stats then we wud had to do the work 15*7 times of the current work?? Do you think is it feasible?? Nope.

Keeping all this in mind.. this was the best format. It took around 10-15 days to work this out.. How can u think that u will understand this is 1-2 days or few hours.

Wait and have patience. You will get to know why it is good.

And if you still dont want to understand then.. its ur will.
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Re: New Rb System

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I've been reading absolutely everything he has written Númenor implastastes not because this system from the beginning? how many times we ask all the GMs to change the system rb?.

Man you have to do with the case of PK is to eliminate the account, put RB easier, with lower priced items, the CPO down a lvl to hunt on the maps of clorence and hatrel.

Talk about what is best for all, it's better for everyone or just better for the GMs you asked us if we wanted this system? or this is a server which is what you want and if we do not like us going to another?.

I got all my armor and weapon without buying the E-SHOP I'm unique HK has come to reach the highest Magas with RB and for what? for the overnight change the system and come a booster and cause me great damage.

You think that's fair? it is not.

I would like to answer this question to me according to your new system and expectacular how many points you should have one person RB 9?

They want to say anything is impossible for a player who has two months playing can be a match in competition with a person who started a day like today is impossible.

If they see that wars are uneven indicate that there may be only 1 or 2 players rb high by KH.

Númenor And with all due respect I do not think anything nice shots with the attitude that we the players tell it well and is not going to change because you remember who said that the first system RB then the players are disappointed in the work of the GMs may even think that they have no word to keep things.

We can expect us to be reset after the server to have full equality?

They made a bad work in this system and are not asked for opinions as authoritarian.

A thousand apologies if you do not like what you just mentioned but the truth is

Thank you very much for your attention.
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Re: New Rb System

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Is there any other way to say No?? Whichever way i choose to say No.. u wont like it. There is nothing to attitude which u are interpreting.

Whatever I say which might oppose you.. u will think that I am showing attitude. There is nothing like that.

We (me and Scar) cannot make everyone happy. Some of you think it is not good for you.. but many think that its okay. We were expecting these type of questions being asked/raised. There is nothing unusual.

Every system has a flaw. It cant be perfect. The current one which we are using has lesser compared to the previous one., therefore we decided to implement it. We worked on this very hard and its obvious that we will not be reverting it back just due to that particular reason.

We were thinking to reset all chars back to zero and start from beginning, but did the extra work to code, calculate and decide to let all players retain the RB. Trust me.. you do not know and will not understand what benefits it has on to the previous one. As explained earlier.. however hard we try.. u will not understand it.

Once again.. It will not be changed.. This current system will stay for RBs on the server from now.
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Re: New Rb System

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He has not answered my question how many points GMs should have a character rb 9.

And if I appreciate the work of the GMs do not accept is that you should consult the changes will not make them because they want to say and that is not going to change so it is in favor of the server has to consult with all of you do not play just check the operation of the server we are concerned we have to adapt to changes without notice.

And this is the second change in two months that carries the active server and if not you realize the only people who are like those who are starting the game rather than those who have time on, that is not me alone .

No problem beam changes they want but when you make changes so dramatically and can be annoys people to leave the server.

And certainly not respondistes to the question that you did going to repeat it a third time:
How many points should be a person rb 9?
if it occurs in the first rb 300 a person who should have rb 9

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How many points should be a person rb 9?
This is the point got after taking RB 9.
9*300 = 2700 at lvl 1.
After that depends on his level. 6 stats points per level and 6 stats pnts per level in Vitality and mana as per class.
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Re: New Rb System

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And certainly we going to return the WZ we spend buying lore point.

on my part to buy 5 million lore that amounts to 750,000,000 of WZ.
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Re: New Rb System

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Firstly, credits Numenor for actually deciphering his post...it seems like a big load of garbage to me.

Personally, I like the new RB system. Maybe its just me, but it seems a lot more balanced than before. Eg : HK's with def = wtfax. FireArrows and Legend tanking the whole of Agni =D

And another thing... earlier before this system was implemented, MY KH and I went Cloro bossing and ALL of us were RB 6+ along with being Aura's. It was still difficult without our HK Knight supporting us and only SilentKiller was able to efficiently tank the bosses along with the mobs. He is RB 9 with a complete g10 set. But now, since the stat points allocation is linear, doesn't it seem like a party of RB 6's will be getting along there as fine as a party of RB 10's ? I mean, there are stat point differences, but not to such an extremity. Haven't really tested this but theoretically, it has some merit. Or atleast, thats what comes to my mind. I'll be glad to be proven wrong =X

Yeah but anyway, the reason I am posting here is because after this new system was implemented, I have been unable to log into my Archer. It gets to the point where I see my character from a high aerial view and then it remains stuck for a few seconds following which A3 just closes. I noticed that my exp bar shows about 15m or 150m something %. Sooo, any help would be appreciated. xS
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Re: New Rb System

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I am tired.. In office at the moment. Lot of work to do here.

Wait for Scar to reply after this. I can't explain more.. I give up.. :geek:
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