THE RB 12 QUEST SHOULD BE REDUCED!!!

[vbr3167]

RESPECTED GM's AND AMINSITRATORS:

It is the request of all the players who are doing the RB 12 quest that it be reduced to 1 or 2 times. Making it 3 times is just too much of a hazzard as many players are getting discouraged and bored and are planning to stop doing it when the hear that they have to do it 3 times. Please think of it from the players point of view too.

RB 11 as it is was not an easy task itself. According to me and many others doing the quest, we feel that the quest needs to reduced to a fewer number due to the following:

1. It is not Rb 14 or 15 to make it so hard, it is just 12 , well i do agree it needs to be a bit challenging and hard but making us to do it 3 times is asking a bit too much.
2. Players without E-Shop items are finding it insanely hard to complete these quest. They take few days just to get a few quest items, forget completing each part of the quest. They are even finding it hard to hunt in these maps.
3. Drop rate of the quest items being extremely low is very frustrating and irritating at the same time, For example few days back i was doing the 3rd part and hunted nearly 14 hours straight for the 1st dagger to fall. That was just ridiculous.
4. Some players are getting so frustrated that they were telling me that it was crazy to do this 3 times when 1 time itself is so hard to do, considering those players who are still stuck on various parts of the quest and are getting more and more frustrated when they hear that they have to do the quest 3 times. One of the player went on to say that he will quit here and go to some Sucker server.

These are just the starting few who have started doing this quest and are finding it really hard and frustrating. It is my sincere request from me and along with other players to please please reduce the number of times the quest has to be done. Please Consider this Petition from us players.
Thank You!

GhostWalker Rb 11 LvL 165 ( HATE # of times RB 12 QUEST has to be done)

P.S - Scar Garu Koncham Daya Chaiyande PLEASE, Memu Pasu Pillal Ekada . Chana Kashtam Quest Idi

[Loverboy]

Well i fully endorse the comment in the previous post.

Everything is becoming repetative

Damn Tart quest then Letter quest and now this damn RB 12 quest 3 times ........

To get to RB 11 was tough enough and the reward of only 300 points does not fit the time or effort taken

now we have the RB 12 quest where we hunt in a tough series of maps and where the drop rate is like 100 worse than the Artery quest in S2 ( that sent a shiver up my spine ) and this time 10 drops are needed

And then to contemplate doing it twice more is to put it bluntly beyond reasoning

And to add wood to the fire all to gain just 300 points ......

What can we anticipate for rb 13 and rb 14 ?? i mean this is only RB 12 our characters are not that strong

I agree it should be a challenge and it is with the tough creeps and very poor drop rate but then to repeat and end up doing it three times is just tedious non enjoyable boring and frustrating

And to do it with no e shop kit is much tougher

So please consider these posts and evaluate how to improve so that players can have more enjoyment and benefit with more than 300 points and not to perform this task three times.

rant and moan over

[spiritguard]

I too feel the same with Ghostwalker comment.......

Gm if u cant reduce the quest repitition atlaest give some rewards from rb 11..... I think that will encourage players to do the quest......... I all yur replies (for some improvrments) u all just keep planning and no result or decision has come up.....
Its a request that the players needs should be taken into considerations...

I knw that u wanna make the rb system challenging but atleast think as if u are a player and told to do the rb 12 quest..... 3 times...... players will stop going above rb 12....... or even may stop playing...... Think of these once....

[[GM]Scar]

RESPECTED GM's AND AMINSITRATORS:

It is the request of all the players who are doing the RB 12 quest that it be reduced to 1 or 2 times. Making it 3 times is just too much of a hazzard as many players are getting discouraged and bored and are planning to stop doing it when the hear that they have to do it 3 times. Please think of it from the players point of view too.

Bio Hazard?

1. It is not Rb 14 or 15 to make it so hard, it is just 12 , well i do agree it needs to be a bit challenging and hard but making us to do it 3 times is asking a bit too much.

RB 14, 15?? I never even heard of them.. Anyways treat RB 12 as the maximum RB. So, don't you feel that you can go for it?

2. Players without E-Shop items are finding it insanely hard to complete these quest. They take few days just to get a few quest items, forget completing each part of the quest. They are even finding it hard to hunt in these maps.

It may be right what you are saying, but being tactical helps. If you are a mage, you can take a Warrior with you, or a Group of Party.

3. Drop rate of the quest items being extremely low is very frustrating and irritating at the same time, For example few days back i was doing the 3rd part and hunted nearly 14 hours straight for the 1st dagger to fall. That was just ridiculous.

It is luck based. Sometimes you may get the quest item very fast and sometimes you might not get at all. It all depends upon the randomness of the server.

PS: The Quest drop rate is 15% more in a party!

4. Some players are getting so frustrated that they were telling me that it was crazy to do this 3 times when 1 time itself is so hard to do, considering those players who are still stuck on various parts of the quest and are getting more and more frustrated when they hear that they have to do the quest 3 times. One of the player went on to say that he will quit here and go to some Sucker server.

Quit.. Go to A3 India.. Spend 2 Years.. Make a G10 Character.. Get Hacked...

If it is Hard for you, Its hard for everyone. Everyone is doing it, so its not something that only you are doing, and assuming that the others are finding an easy way out.

These are just the starting few who have started doing this quest and are finding it really hard and frustrating. It is my sincere request from me and along with other players to please please reduce the number of times the quest has to be done. Please Consider this Petition from us players.
Thank You!

Let me get to you in detail:
We have Planned the Pineapple Tart Quest in such a way that you need to repeat the quest several times and the quest items required are increasing and there is a need of making previous RB items also. We thought of having 15 Rebirths and a Reset of Rebirth, which will keep the stats and take the rebirth back to RB1. We had a quick change in plan. We thought have removing the reset, and let players stay at a Rebirth and we will keep adding rebirths periodically. This will make players concentrate on other concepts of the game except leveling. This will even give us time to be more innovative so that we can come up with a new quest for each RB. Hence this Clororence quest will ONLY be there for RB12. You will have a different Quest for RB 13 altogether. If not, we would have virtually had the Clororence Quest instead of the Capability Quest and the same crafting idea would continue. That will require you to do the Clororence Quest 6 Times for RB 13. Instead, we have come up with this idea of making a unique quests or methods for each RB.

P.S - Scar Garu Koncham Daya Chaiyande PLEASE, Memu Pasu Pillal Ekada . Chana Kashtam Quest Idi

Lite Thisko.

Damn Tart quest then Letter quest and now this damn RB 12 quest 3 times ........

Are you interested to play?

And to add wood to the fire all to gain just 300 points ......

We MIGHT be planning for level 166.

Gm if u cant reduce the quest repitition atlaest give some rewards from rb 11..... I think that will encourage players to do the quest.........

Encourage Players?? The Hard Quest makes you stick to RB 11?

[Numenor]

I prefer just saying a simple "No" rather than such big explanations. We have discussed and said the same thing so many times.. over and over again.

[Loverboy]

GM Scar

In my opinion a bit of a lame answer from you

Do we wish to play this server yes
do we want fun and enjoyment yes
Do we want to hunt for 14 hours to get a single quest drop NO !!!

Do we want this Rb 12 quest repeated and go through the frustration again No !!!

Tell me wot character will want to hunt in chlorence who is not on the quest ?, the creep experience is non existant and the creeps drop ores scales and hairs , after 5 minutes they will leave as nothing to gain.

In my humble opinion i dont think doing Tart quest and letter quest upteen times is innovative also same can be said about repeating the Rb 12 quest

Thats why the players are posting their views here.

And if you were considering making RB 13 quest six times that of RB 12 quest , then i am sure any one who has a brain will not subject them selves to that level of frustration.

A happy server is a good server

Even reducing quest drops from 10 to five will at least help because drop rate is very very low

Please re consider,

[[GM]Scar]

Do we wish to play this server yes
do we want fun and enjoyment yes
Do we want to hunt for 14 hours to get a single quest drop NO !!!

Do we want this Rb 12 quest repeated and go through the frustration again No !!!

Making Everyone Happy - IMPOSSIBLE

Even reducing quest drops from 10 to five will at least help because drop rate is very very low

Too late.

[ANGELDEVIL]

Good day this is to inform my dear GMs that I find very interesting is that the system RB implant is something new unlike other server, but the trouble that I present myself and my fellow players is that it is impossible to complete this quest.

Gentlemen, take 3 days hunting in grandi just to get the AX OF grandeur and I did not drop any that if they must seem alarming to you.

Saying that the move will make improvements to the server I have noticed, but not everything that you implement it is right here.

With RB that many have to do this quest in other server may be hunting quietly in the worlds of SIDH, one thing is not to resemble other server and there is always put things more difficult for the players.

You make alterations and improvements but you really are not those who see if they work or not we who we play what we see the flaws and through this forum to tell them that the better.

If you continue with attitudes do not listen to people say that they will not lose players but Remember it is not the only server to another and may appear better opportunities, then there would lose if you know people like this business of servers online.

Listen requests are not cost anything to lower the demands of the quest, so I would say below parecera something crazy but it was better to collect Pineaple and other items that it already knows that one day can make a lot of tart and drop the items.

True friend of my advice I have business management and public and the customer is always right.

I hope you spend a happy Christmas to all and a prosperous New Year 2009
Tomorrow, Dec. 23 birthday congratulation for me lol

Arcangel3000
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[spiritguard]

Scar wrote:
RB 14, 15?? I never even heard of them.. Anyways treat RB 12 as the maximum RB. So, don't you feel that you can go for it?

Ok Scar Lets take it this way, According to u Rb 12 is the max rb till now.....Now think u have implemented all rbs till rb 16, And a new player joins the server.... Think About the hardships he would undergo when he starts lvling....And at that time please dont say that even others have gone through the same stage...

numenor wrote:
I prefer just saying a simple "No" rather than such big explanations. We have discussed and said the same thing so many times.. over and over again.

I think if this is your attitude... Then u may loose many players... be realistic dude... U own the server But we play and not u ... its we who donate to play and not u ..Get this straight in yur head....

Sorry for being rude... But thats the only way u will understand now....i think.... All players respect u all GMS and this is what a reply we all get whenever we try to suggest somethng..... Tell me one post where u have accepted our suggestions... U think we all dont understand anythng and u are the smartest dude... Come on face the reality... and i shd not mention in this post where is the SSS.....

and 1 more thng Numenor reply to my post.. Dont ignore it...

[Numenor]

I think if this is your attitude... Then u may loose many players... be realistic dude... U own the server But we play and not u ... its we who donate to play and not u ..Get this straight in yur head....

Sorry for being rude... But thats the only way u will understand now....i think.... All players respect u all GMS and this is what a reply we all get whenever we try to suggest somethng..... Tell me one post where u have accepted our suggestions... U think we all dont understand anythng and u are the smartest dude... Come on face the reality... and i shd not mention in this post where is the SSS.....

and 1 more thng Numenor reply to my post.. Dont ignore it...

Try to read previous discussions. You will come to know everything. Rather than explaining everything again and again. I would prefer you to read all those before any suggestions. We CANNOT change anything. If we change one.. its like changing thousands and thousands of codes.. which we will not;;;; as before implementing everything, we had already considered every aspect. Even after you give hundred logical explanations, our reasons are same and we have our own reasons too.. which you will not understand.

So a simple NO is always a good reply to me as I do not consider repeating my replies if billion threads of the same things are brought up over and over again... And screw my attitude.. I am like this.. any reply of yours is not going to change anything.

And as far a loosing players are concerned... read Scar first reply in the thread above. Go Play A3 India.

As I always say... YOU CANNOT MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY.

And as far as hardship to new players are concerned.. why should we make anything easier for players who join late?? People who joined first will always have an edge.

PS: Thanks for wasting my time in repeating the same things which I said earlier and was also said by Scar.

No further discussion on this please. Topic locked. If anyone one to know our explanations, read all Scar and my replies in this topic as well as other topics regarding RB system discussions.